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		<title>By: gier</title>
		<link>http://www.mentera.org/2007/10/09/a-muslims-lament-regarding-science/comment-page-1/#comment-4946</link>
		<dc:creator>gier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=\&quot;Anonymous\&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Anyway Gier good article. Have you read the book by Syed Akhbar Ali, Malaysia and the Club of Doom? Disjointed and shot from the hips but worth a read. Says the same thingsâ€¦&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, I haven&#039;t. Saw the book at a bookshop last night, and recalled that I once flicked through it. I couldn&#039;t bring myself to buy it, to be honest. It felt too much like venting a spleen, as you noted already. Maybe I&#039;ll get round to it, one of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=\"Anonymous\"><p><em>Anyway Gier good article. Have you read the book by Syed Akhbar Ali, Malaysia and the Club of Doom? Disjointed and shot from the hips but worth a read. Says the same thingsâ€¦</em></p></blockquote>
<p>No, I haven&#8217;t. Saw the book at a bookshop last night, and recalled that I once flicked through it. I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to buy it, to be honest. It felt too much like venting a spleen, as you noted already. Maybe I&#8217;ll get round to it, one of these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hafiz &amp; Gier, God only knows how that guy came to the skewered conclusion as he did considering the link to the excerpt to Prof Hoodbhoy&#039;s article had these 2 paras..

&quot;A comparison with Brazil, India, China, and the US reveals significantly smaller numbers. A study by academics at the International Islamic University Malaysia showed that OIC (Organization of the Islamic Conference) countries have 8.5 scientists, engineers, and technicians per 1000 population, compared with a world average of 40.7, and 139.3 for countries of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development&quot;.

&quot;Forty-six Muslim countries contributed 1.17% of the worldâ€™s science literature, whereas 1.66% came from India alone and 1.48% from Spain. Twenty Arab countries contributed 0.55%, compared with 0.89% by Israel alone. The US NSF records that of the 28 lowest producers of scientific articles in 2003, half belong to the OIC&quot;.

Anyway Gier...good article. Have you read the book by Syed Akhbar Ali, Malaysia and the Club of Doom? Disjointed and shot from the hips but worth a read. Says the same things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hafiz &amp; Gier, God only knows how that guy came to the skewered conclusion as he did considering the link to the excerpt to Prof Hoodbhoy&#8217;s article had these 2 paras..</p>
<p>&#8220;A comparison with Brazil, India, China, and the US reveals significantly smaller numbers. A study by academics at the International Islamic University Malaysia showed that OIC (Organization of the Islamic Conference) countries have 8.5 scientists, engineers, and technicians per 1000 population, compared with a world average of 40.7, and 139.3 for countries of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Forty-six Muslim countries contributed 1.17% of the worldâ€™s science literature, whereas 1.66% came from India alone and 1.48% from Spain. Twenty Arab countries contributed 0.55%, compared with 0.89% by Israel alone. The US NSF records that of the 28 lowest producers of scientific articles in 2003, half belong to the OIC&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway Gier&#8230;good article. Have you read the book by Syed Akhbar Ali, Malaysia and the Club of Doom? Disjointed and shot from the hips but worth a read. Says the same things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gier</title>
		<link>http://www.mentera.org/2007/10/09/a-muslims-lament-regarding-science/comment-page-1/#comment-4881</link>
		<dc:creator>gier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya ... I went over. Isn&#039;t that strange? I actually went and double-checked to see if we were talking about the same article.

Far out ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya &#8230; I went over. Isn&#8217;t that strange? I actually went and double-checked to see if we were talking about the same article.</p>
<p>Far out &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hafiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hafiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.menj.org/religion-philosophy/malaysia-among-top-scientifically-productive-islamic-nations&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog&lt;/a&gt;. He somehow draws different conclusion by citing the same article that you referred to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should read <a href="http://www.menj.org/religion-philosophy/malaysia-among-top-scientifically-productive-islamic-nations" rel="nofollow">this blog</a>. He somehow draws different conclusion by citing the same article that you referred to.</p>
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		<title>By: gier</title>
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		<dc:creator>gier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, went to that Big Bookshop place at Atria. Couldn&#039;t find the book -- probably because they&#039;ve got a stacking system that&#039;s even more advanced than the Dewey Decimal.

Anyhow, will go look for it again, and if I can&#039;t find it, I&#039;ll borrow yours, yeah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, went to that Big Bookshop place at Atria. Couldn&#8217;t find the book &#8212; probably because they&#8217;ve got a stacking system that&#8217;s even more advanced than the Dewey Decimal.</p>
<p>Anyhow, will go look for it again, and if I can&#8217;t find it, I&#8217;ll borrow yours, yeah?</p>
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		<title>By: bibliobibuli</title>
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		<dc:creator>bibliobibuli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>v. good post because these are necessary questions and awarenesses

you might also be interested in an essay called &quot;science and islam&quot; by perez hoodbhoy, which is in a book put out by english PEN &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0141024739?tag=englishpen-21&amp;camp=1406&amp;creative=6394&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=0141024739&amp;adid=1283N8TZJAY7DYJR98EV&amp;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;free expression is no offence&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

i can end you my copy (it is also on sale cheap cheap at big bookshop warehouse sale in atria)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>v. good post because these are necessary questions and awarenesses</p>
<p>you might also be interested in an essay called &#8220;science and islam&#8221; by perez hoodbhoy, which is in a book put out by english PEN <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0141024739?tag=englishpen-21&amp;camp=1406&amp;creative=6394&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=0141024739&amp;adid=1283N8TZJAY7DYJR98EV&amp;" rel="nofollow">&#8220;free expression is no offence&#8221;</a></p>
<p>i can end you my copy (it is also on sale cheap cheap at big bookshop warehouse sale in atria)</p>
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		<title>By: A Muslimâ€™s Lament Regarding Science : Bolehland</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Muslimâ€™s Lament Regarding Science : Bolehland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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