Comments on: The Bar Council Forum this Saturday and the “Missing The Point Horde” http://www.mentera.org/2008/08/07/the-bar-council-forum-this-saturday-and-the-missing-the-point-horde/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-bar-council-forum-this-saturday-and-the-missing-the-point-horde Chants 'R Us Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:51:45 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: zie http://www.mentera.org/2008/08/07/the-bar-council-forum-this-saturday-and-the-missing-the-point-horde/comment-page-1/#comment-10916 zie Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:56:45 +0000 http://www.mentera.org/?p=124#comment-10916 Let's take an example, say a Muslim lady residing in a country where Muslims are minority. Let's say hypothetically in a country called YZ. The majority of the population of YZ are Christians. This lady then got married to a native of YZ who converted to Islam from Christianity. Let's say for comparison sake the couple had two children, aged say five and three. Then for some reason, the husband disappeared somewhere leaving the mother and the children on their own for some time. When he reappeared he said that he doesn't want to be a Muslim anymore and that he had reverted to Christianity. He then snatched both children from the mother, saying that he doesn't want the children to be brought up as Muslims. He felt that he has the right because he is the father and he is now a Christian again and in YZ christianity is the predominant religion and the rights of the Christians have to be protected. Wouldn't muslims all over the world feel that this is "zalim", should the judicial system of YZ favours the father? Let’s take an example, say a Muslim lady residing in a country where Muslims are minority. Let’s say hypothetically in a country called YZ. The majority of the population of YZ are Christians. This lady then got married to a native of YZ who converted to Islam from Christianity. Let’s say for comparison sake the couple had two children, aged say five and three. Then for some reason, the husband disappeared somewhere leaving the mother and the children on their own for some time. When he reappeared he said that he doesn’t want to be a Muslim anymore and that he had reverted to Christianity. He then snatched both children from the mother, saying that he doesn’t want the children to be brought up as Muslims. He felt that he has the right because he is the father and he is now a Christian again and in YZ christianity is the predominant religion and the rights of the Christians have to be protected. Wouldn’t muslims all over the world feel that this is “zalim”, should the judicial system of YZ favours the father?

]]> By: Mat Merah http://www.mentera.org/2008/08/07/the-bar-council-forum-this-saturday-and-the-missing-the-point-horde/comment-page-1/#comment-10796 Mat Merah Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:20:15 +0000 http://www.mentera.org/?p=124#comment-10796 Its the dog in the manger syndrome! If they organise it, its a democracy, if not, its anarchy! What I am trying to understand is the racial tension thingy that the powers-that-be keep talking about. What has race got to do with it? Not all Muslims are Malays and not all Malays are Muslims except by law in Malaysia. Get over it. Its time to talk. About everything. Like. Right. Now! These dudes in power - be it Umno, Pas, PKR, whatever acronym you can think of except SiPM (M)- are too obssessed with losing hold of the Malaysian mind. Vote for SiPM (M). We talk about everything. Its the dog in the manger syndrome!

If they organise it, its a democracy, if not, its anarchy!

What I am trying to understand is the racial tension thingy that the powers-that-be keep talking about. What has race got to do with it? Not all Muslims are Malays and not all Malays are Muslims except by law in Malaysia.

Get over it. Its time to talk. About everything. Like. Right. Now!

These dudes in power – be it Umno, Pas, PKR, whatever acronym you can think of except SiPM (M)- are too obssessed with losing hold of the Malaysian mind.

Vote for SiPM (M). We talk about everything.

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